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American English vs British English

American English vs British English

zleetz_languages
Seems like you can't go wrong if you write judgment without E.

51 comments

chorpinecherisher•
I'm American but prefer the British spellings for a lot of words, like 'grey' or 'familiarise' (ise over ize). Judgement is one of those ones where the American straight up feels wrong though.
XiaoDaoShi•
Ok. First time I've seen this. Judgment is cursed and unacceptable. seems like literally the only time where you use soft g when g is not in front of a vowel. Please talk to someone about it. It needs to be fixed now.
Literographer•
Judgment just looks wrong to me. I always spell it judgement.
Anngsturs•
As an American I don't think I've ever seen it written "judgment" and have only ever seen and used "judgement"
TheLurkingMenace•
My very first Mandela Effect. It's been "judgement" in the US my entire life.
reddock4490•
As a born and raised American, this is news to me, lmao. Team “judgement”
avalve•
I’m American and I have to go out of my way to remember to drop the first E when spelling judgment. It just looks so wrong to me. Another word that trips me up is purposely vs purposefully (apparently they have two slightly different meanings).
royalhawk345•
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills reading these comments, because it's definitely always been "judgment" in America. 
Innuendum•
I remember being a young whippersnapper getting Final Fantasy 8 for my birthday. Alexander's ability in Final Fantasy 8 was "Judgment" and I was shocked at the incompetence of the localisers.
Evil_Weevill•
OP is technically correct that "judgment" is the standard "preferred" spelling in American English. (Just check Merriam Webster) However both are accepted spellings in the US and in actual practice, judgement is probably actually more common.
fgsgeneg•
I've read enough English literature from the 19th century that I'm more likely to use the "U" in words like honour and so forth than not. I'm pretty interchangeable between judgement and judgment.
reyo7•
Judgment doesn't look like a real word...
Dapper-Key-8614•
I have never seen judgment and it looks cursed.
soleilady•
Hey, I use judgment 🥲 But, to be fair, I always used judgement before stumbling upon the rule however long ago. Now judgement looks wrong to me.
TiberiusTheFish•
FFS! can nobody here use a dictionary? This really isn't something that needs to be debated or is amenable to opinion. US and legal usage is judgment and outside of the US in non legal sense it's judgement. If you've been spelling it differently you've been wrong, but only in a trivial way.
InstructionHot2588•
Yeah no, I don't care American English is just wrong (as in my opinion that they bastardized an already munted language). In Australia we only use judgement.
ebrum2010•
So, in the US, the spelling without the e is supposed to be more common but I've only seen it in legal usages. This spelling is also used everywhere else in legal terminology, even when the word is otherwise spelled with an e. While some people say spelling it with an e is wrong in the US, it's just an alternative spelling as many people do. Now, if using it in a legal context, dropping the e is required. I find the spelling without the e to be a little ridiculous since the letter G is usually only allowed to be soft if followed by the front vowels e, i, or y. It's also could be the case that the British spelling permeated into American English because of books, etc. Another example of this is traveler, traveller, where the US drops an L and everywhere else doesn't. I usually spell it the British way, likely due to the fact I read a lot of Tolkien as a kid.
JNerdGaming•
yeah im still spelling it judgement
veryblocky•
Worth noting that the legal context thing isn’t a hard and fast rule. You still see “judgement” here too sometimes
B4byJ3susM4n•
It makes zero sense to me. The e is essential for the <dge> trigraph, which is the natural way to spell the “j” sound /dʒ/ after short vowels at the end of a word or syllable in English. This should be regardless of region or usage context. I facetiously read “judgment” like “JUD-gə-ment” to point this out.
feartheswans•
According to this flow diagram, there’s no reason to use Judgement.
cheezitthefuzz•
American non-lawyer here, I always use judgement.
veovis523•
"Judgment" looks profoundly incorrect to me as an American. I was watching *The Three Body Problem* on Netflix a while ago, which features a converted oil tanker with "Judgment" painted on its hull. I was so sure it was a spelling error that I had to pause the show and look it up to make sure.
SkyPork•
The *Terminator* sequel settled this before most of you were even born. Yes, it looks weird, but English is a stupid language. Deal with it and drop that E.
DrownedInDysphoria•
I was born in American and have never “Judgment” in my life
CheesecakeMage42•
Shit I'm an American and I've always written Judgement. I didn't realize this was one of those words that's different in American English. Judgment just looks weird to me
igelzeit-•
Enough Americans use "judgement" that when I was in law school multiple professors had to make a point of teaching/reminding us to use "judgment" in legal contexts.
glassfromsand•
As an American I'm really questioning whether I've *ever* seen anyone spell it judgment. I certainly don't. But I'm about to start law school so I guess I'll have to learn to accept it…?
OceanPoet87•
I'm American but I use judgement. I had no idea that the standard is no "e." I think most Americans would be surprised. Almost everyone I know uses the supposedly British way. Just like Gray vs Grey but people alternate really. 
EfficientSeaweed•
Ah, the Canadian struggle. Right up there with traveled/travelled.
kjpmi•
I am an american and a native speaker and I also cannot recall ever seeing “judgment.” It looks wrong to me.
Clunk_Westwonk•
I’m American, I’d spell it judgement. I never even noticed there were two spellings.
L_Is_Robin•
Okay I’m not sure who made this because as an American I def spell it judgement. Is it a regional thing? I’m from the US South
BobbyThrowaway6969•
I won't judg
ShibamKarmakar•
American English is weird.
Acethetic_AF•
I’m American and Judgment looks inherently wrong to me. This chart is either wrong or very regional.
midwesternGothic24•
I'm american AND I work in a legal setting and 'judgment' just looks wrong to me.
Hitotsudesu•
I'm American and I don't think I've ever seen judgment and if I have i probably thought it was a typo
johnnybna•
I spell it **judgement**. Of the two options, it's the only one that shows you the g is soft and makes the word pronounceable. Otherwise it looks like jud-guh-ment. Plus, when you add -ment onto a word, you don't remove a silent e. We don't have words like abridgment, engagment, statment, basment, bereavment, defilment, procurment, etc. I don't really know why judgment isn't a misspelling.
anonqwertyq•
How about everyone uses the spelling of the people who invented the English language, the British?
VSuzanne•
I've never seen in without an e in the UK, but maybe it is a lawyer-specific thing.
ParkingAnxious2811•
The flow diagram is wrong, you use the e anywhere except usa.
SiminaDar•
I refuse to leave out the e. It just looks wrong without it.
Nervous_Tourist_8699•
Ex English lawyer here, the flow chart is fairly accurate but, judgement is something given by a judge and judgment is like “your judgment” so not because you are in a legal meeting. In short use an “e” only when referring to a formal written ruling of a judge
Tiny_Recipe5522•
Amm,,,,
weatherbuzz•
This is wrong. Either spelling will work fine in the US. Planet Fitness bills itself as a “judgement free zone”.
lgf92•
To clarify, in British English, "judgment" means a decision handed down by a court. It isn't so much whether you're in a "legal setting" - it's that that word has a specific legal meaning. "Judgement" is used in all other contexts. Indeed, you could read in a court judgment the sentence "In my judgement, the Claimant's case was flawed as it relied on the overturned judgment in A vs B..."
zleetz_languages••OP
Let me add the [source](https://www.grammar-monster.com/easily_confused/pics/judgement-or-judgment.webp)
HowlerSlug•
As far as I'm concerned, "judgment" is always wrong, but I'm British.
NotSoMuch_IntoThis•
I got my bachelor’s from the US, and it’s where I learned English after high school. I’m soon going to the UK for my master’s, and I’m afraid I’ll look like a stupid foreigner who’s never bothered to learn how to spell. I guess I’ll just be adding “e”s and “u”s after any “o” I come across and hope for the best, lol. /s
AnonymousLlama1776•
There does seem to be a shift in the U.S. towards judgement. I personally would always spell it judgement I think