You and her or You and she?

In situations like this, if I’m a bit unsure I will try the “singular” test. I’ll put it into a simpler sentence & test each pronoun: Original “You and her are young” >convert each to singular> “You are young” ✅ > “Her is young” ❌ > “She is young” ✅ therefore >> “You and she are young.” is the correct version.

She and you

It’s a common use by native speakers even though it’s grammatically incorrect. It should be “she.”

if you have to say it this way, I'd go for "she and you," but this sounds stiff to me. most native speakers would opt for something like: you guys, you both, y'all, you two... etc.

You can check these pretty easily by taking apart the sentence. You and her are virtually indistinguishable. ~~Her are~~ virtually indistinguishable ~~her is~~ virtually indistinguishable She is virtually indistinguishable. You and she are virtually indistinguishable.

It's using the objective because it's not a well written sentence. *You* are "virtually indistinguishable" *from her* would be much clearer.

The *"traditional"* grammar rule is that if it acts as a subject, a subject pronoun should be used, and if it acts as an object, then an object pronoun should be used: - You and she are coming to the party. - I saw you and her at the party. That being said, the reality is that most native speakers, unless taught to do so otherwise and usually only in situations where we are speaking very carefully, will use "you and her" in both of these situations. Linguistically, we could argue that the usage "you and her" in a subject position is not an example of *incorrect* usage of an object pronoun, but rather *correct* usage of a disjunctive pronoun. For non-natives, I would recommend copying natives as much as possible in speech, as that is what will sound the most natural. However, in formal speech or when answering exam questions, the "if it's a subject, subject pronoun, if it's an object, object pronoun" rule should be applied.

Strictly speaking, it should be "you and she" (or "she and you"), but this is a grammar error that native speakers make ALL of the time, both in speech and writing. The way to "check" is by separating the two subjects: "You are virtually indistinguishable (from her)" "Her is virtually indistinguishable (from you)" (obviously wrong)

I don’t know why I can’t edit the original post. Thanks for your help guys. Now I understand that I should avoid using both “you and she” and “you and her.”

As a native speaker, "you and her" sounds fine to my ears, but as the other comments point out, that isn't grammatically correct

Nobody talks like that, these are a better way of saying it... * You two are indistinguishable * You are both very similar * You are indistinguishable from her * She is indistinguishable from you * She is the spitting image of you * You are the spitting image of her

Native speaker, and neither option sounds right to me. From a strictly grammatical standpoint, "you and she" is the correct answer. The way I was taught to tell the difference is to remove the "you" and then pick "she/her" based on that sentence. "**She** is indistinguishable \[...from you\]" is the correct form, the part in brackets is implied. However, I would most likely say "You two are indistinguishable," or "The two of you are indistinguishable," unless I was writing or speaking in very formal circumstances.

She and you… sound best

This appears to be a grammatically incorrect example.

When there are two subjects you check if each works as a stand alone sentence. She is indistinguishable, or Her is indistinguishable. You and she would be correct

This is a case where there is a difference between formal written "correct" English and the way people actually speak in practice. "You and her are different" is very likely a sentence that would come out of my mouth in conversation as a native speaker, be understood, and sound natural *even though it is technically grammatically incorrect*. "You and she are different" is the correct grammar, but "sounds weird". If I had to express this thought in formal written English, or in prepared remarks, I would rephrase it to avoid the issue: * There's a difference between you and her. * The two of you are different.

Here is a grammatical test. Remove "You" from the sentence, and see how it sounds. "Her is virtually indistinguishable?" Both you and she are the subject of the sentence; they are both in the nominative case. If you remove the "you", "she" remains the subject of the sentence . "she" is declined as nominative.

You and she is correct, but “the two of you” or “you two” sounds much more natural.

I have no idea how "you and her"/"you and she"/"she and you" sounds good to any of the native speakers here - they're all wrong. One or two of them might be right from an academic standpoint, but I have never heard another native speaker say any of these. The correct phrase here is "You two are" or, if you're from the southern US, you might say "Y'all are". Alternatively, you could break it up: "You are... from her"

This is one of those “technically incorrect” things. Native speakers say this all the time to the point that saying “you and she” sounds odd.

Separate the subjects. You are virtually... She is virtually... therefore You and she are virtually... The same practice applies to objects. I'll give it to you... I'll give it to her... I'll give it to you and her.

Grammatically, it should be "You and she" as this is a compound **subject** pronoun. In practice, **tons** of native speakers will say "you and her" and will further tell you that "you and she" <sounds weird>.

you and her. you and she sounds a little off, even if it's "correct"

Technically it should be you and she. You use he/she/they before the verb (in this case, "are") and him/her/them after. That being said, in this particular case, I've mostly heard people (myself included) say you and her.

y'all

A subject compound > You and she An object compound > You and her

You and her and virtually indistinguishable. She and you are virtually indistinguishable. Those are to two options that sounds natural to me.

"You and her" is *posing* as a plural (subject) here, hence all the "her is" vs "she is" comments, but the other ways to construct this sentence would be "You are virtually indistinguishable *from* her" or "She is virtually indistinguishable *from* you". In these other constructions, the subject/object divide is much clearer. The ambiguity in word order in English is something that most native speakers, especially monolingual ones, take for granted, and this can have implications on whether people, especially colloquially, use the most formally grammatically correct pronoun-agreement. In the above sentence, "You and she" is inarguably correct, but this does not mean "You and her" is *necessarily* incorrect. Indeed, it seems that the majority of comments here would prefer to use "You and her" in their 'natural' speech. Overall, both are correct, since you would be understood with both. If you have control over the phrasing, it would be best to use either "You two are" (which disambiguates the pluralisation mentioned at the start) or "You are... from her" (which disambiguates the subject/object divide). If this is a test question, I would argue that it is unfair, but I would err on the side of "You and she".

English must be super frustrating to learn. Correct English: Here are 3,500 grammar rules to memorise. Actual English: Yeah nah, this way sounds better..

I think both are grammatically wrong. Instead, I think “you two are indistinguishable” is much better.

When in this conundrum remove one of the subjects: You and she are Or You are Or She are She are is clearly wrong so "She is" would be the correct way to say it if you remove the "you". You would not say "Her are" or "her is" if you remove "you". "You and she are" is correct here, particularly because two subjects are noted together making the verb plural.

This is not correct formal English, but it’s SO COMMON in colloquial English that it’s hard to say it’s wrong. Even very well educated native speakers will occasionally use it when speaking casually.